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Debulking the
Valkyrie
AN
OXYMORON MADE REAL
NightMare
is leaner and meaner than ever!
By Chet Walters
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UH! OH! What's happening here? Well, to start...
disassemble .\ Front end to get chromed by H&R Plating. They can do yours too! |
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Phase one - the rear end. This is a the sum total of
all the lights that will be on the rear of the bike.
SMALL Kuryakyn Small Universal mount Silver
Bullets (2305) are mounted "visor in" under
the fender rails. They look like little rocket engines
back there. Very clean and non bulky (shown here with
amber lenses and these come with interchangeable lenses -
clear, red, amber). Halogen bulbs from the track lighting
section of Home Depot can be used (only $7.50 per -- see
below) and come in various wattages (20 - 35 - 50). For
these SMALL bullets, can't use 50 and the 35 watters are
too bright too so these are equipped with 20 watters.
Holes were drilled in the fender rails for mounting with
supplied 3/8" bolt. The bolt was cut to length and
the edges smoothed so it would not hurt the wires. Added
a little shrink wrap where the wire strikes the bolt for
extra protection. Just screw the bolt in and figure how
long to cut it for your application. (NOTE: Kury silver bullets (2303) now come with a no visor bezel and you can get a visor in whatever orientation that suits your application) |
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Current plate frame was merely bolted to the fender over the existing signal cluster rubber grommet left in place. Holes were drilled through the Ness Tech 12-102 flat backing plate and carriage bolts run through the backing plate into the orignal holes in the fender with nuts applied right where they used to be for the entire signal/license assembly which was discarded. The lighted plate frame is (#9167) Kuryakyn for only $35. Signal Dynamics LED is hung offa piece of stainless which is double stick taped to the back of the plate and the LED is double sticked to the stainless. Triple LED's (#CYC-032) on each side are double stuck to the plate back and are hooked up to glow all the time but the ground wire is run to the HOT wire of each signal so that they blink inversely with the signals (when the signal goes hot, the LED loses "ground" and goes off). |
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The wiring is accomplished using a Badlands Illuminator module which makes the bullets act as running lights, brake lights and turn signals. Very bright. The Badlands module is placed upside down under the seat nestled between the tool box/battery box mounts in the rear. This yields a compact installation and easy access to the necessary connections under the right side cover for the rear fender harness. |
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Debulking! OOOPS! Have I gone too far????!!! Front end gets chromed by H&R Plating. They can do yours too! |
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Thankfully, Kury supplies good long heat resistant silicon coated wiring with the Silver Bullets. Here, the wires are run along the top of the radiator, under the frame then into the main harness into the headlight. The runs along the radiator tops are covered afterwards with a Rattlebars Rad Top Kit making for a very neat look. Grounding the lights was done with little pigtails that merely hook to the radiator side cover bolts. The side cover bolt holes are covered with ¾" allen screw caps. |
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These function well with both the big windshield and mini light bar lamp configurations detailed below. They are wired with Tail/Turn Converters from Lazer Star (mounted in the nacelle as shown) so the single filament bulbs can act as both running lights and turn signals. They are fairly bright, but the modules seem not to function as well as the Badlands item for the rear. The lights are a little dimmer than they should be and you can only run 20Watt lamps in them. I have built an alternative module for my VTX which uses relays and costs only about $10. See the note at the end of this page for more information. |
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Here she is in "touring/cold weather" mode. The Hondaline has mounted with simple right angle brackets on the lower windshield bolts, 4½" lamps which replace the Mini Light Bar rather nicely for a more "bulked up" look that goes with the big shield. These lamps simply plug in where the mini light bar bullets once did. Switching for both the light bar and these lamps is accomplished using the kill switch as detailed on my Kill Switch Page. |
| BADLANDS MODULE WIRING FOR HONDA: The wiring for the Badlands module can be seen seen at left. There are two options and you MUST only use one of them. One option to make the Badlands module work with fourways when the key is off is to hook up the BADLANDS ORANGE to a +12v fused lead off the battery (as they instruct). This way, the module is always ready to light your signal lights whether the key is off or on. DON'T DO BOTH OPTIONS! Or, you can simply tie the BADLANDS ORANGE to the taillight lead just like you do the BADLANDS GREEN which will have the unit switched off with the key (but your fourways will only work when the key is on). DON'T DO BOTH OPTIONS! At this writing the Badlands module colors matched this drawing. Please note that the taillight wires on Honda's have different traces (or no traces) but BROWN is always involved (VTXc BLACK/BROWN - VALK ST/TOUR LIGHT BROWN or BROWN/WHITE- VALK I/S BROWN/WHITE). |
| NOTE: I also put Silver Bullets on my VTX and I built my own front signals/fog/running light module using relays for the front turn signals on that bike (this will also work well for the Valkyrie). The relays are five prong with normally open (87) & normally closed (87a) output terminals. However, here the output terminals are used as input terminals while the input terminal (30) is used as the output terminal to the lamps. The trigger terminal (86) on each relay is hooked up to the front running light wires. The principle is that the running light wires go hot when the bike key is turned on and this triggers the relays. Current is fed to the lamps directly from the battery through the normally off terminal (87) hence the lamps are always on to serve as 35 watt fog lamps/running lights. These are very bright and not only make you more visible to other drivers, they help light up the road at night. |
On Hondas, when you put on your turn signal, the running light on that side is switched off. Put on a blinker and the running light wire goes cold so the relay for that side gets "untriggered" and reverts to "off" hence cuts the steady running light current from the battery through terminal 87 and then feeds current to the lamp from the intermittent turn signal circuit through the normally on terminal (87a) of the relay. You have a blinker! Very bright. Very noticeable. This circuit costs only about $10 to build and will work if you just leave the rear signals as stock too. This also eliminates the "bulb out" problem discussed above so the extra wirewound 10ohm resistors are not necessary.
But, the "running light out when signal on" feature of Honda's signals allows you to also wire them up more simply as shown at the left usind diodes (diodes pass current only one way, the banded side won't let any current through). I have had diode's burn up and cause me grief. But I was using lighter diodes (RS 276-1114). At the suggestion of HonDiego of the VTXOA, I have installed more stout Radio Shack epoxy rectifiers (RS 276-1144) which seem to work well. They get hot so keep them away from vital organs. I have not tested these yet on a full day's ride but I suspect they will work ok. Problem is, there's no way really to switch these off if you need to get some jiuce to start your bike because the Kury silver bullets do not have isolated ground. To wire the bullets with isolated ground, you need to run an extra wire inside the light and pic up the ground there, isolating it, and bringing it out to the switch.
However, there was one problem with the Badlands module used for the rear signals in conjunction with this setup. When the turn signal circuit was hot on one side, there was feedback between the circuits through the blinker indicator and both the rear lights blinked weakly as if there were "fourways" on. Not good! As you can see by the left side of the drawing, the blinker indicator on both the Valkyrie Standard/Tourer models and also the VTX is fed by both signal circuits. When the right signal circuit goes hot, the left (cold) circuit acts as ground and blinks the indicator lamp. When the left signal goes hot, the reverse is true. Unfortunately, there was enough feedback current through the bulb on the VTX that it confused the Badlands module. The solution was to eliminate the feedback but preserve the blinker indicator. The right part of the drawing shows how to do this using Radio Shack diodes (diodes pass current only one way so there is no feedback) and this has the bonus of making the blinker indicator brighter since it removes the filaments of the blinker bulbs in the round circuit. Ground LT BLUE to any GREEN wire or the frame and then feed the ORANGE wire from both the LT BLUE and the ORANGE using diodes.
For more information on relays and how they work, check Extra Horns How To
For more information on blinker indicators and how they work, check Extra Blinker Indicators
NOTE ON BULB OUT: In wiring to disable
"bulb out" you must simulate the resistance of the OEM
35 watt signal filament. To do this, wire a pair of 10 Ohm 10
Watt wire wound resistors to ground on each of the signal
circuits to put a 5 ohm load on each line so that "bulb
out" will not be a problem. These are Radio Shack 271 - 132
and cost only 99¢ for a pair. Good cheap two dollar solution.
These do get warm so don't put them anywhere near plastic or
other wiring. I hung mine down by the swingarm behind the frame.
One could just wire a pair of these between the signal circuits,
but you risk the problem of "feedback" as discussed in
the above paragraph. Note, the actual resistors don't look like
the ones in the drawing. They are square
ceramic hickeys (that's the teck term for them) about two
inches long.
One final note: You can wire your single filament bulb for signals and running lights like this keeping the ground isolated. This is a quikie and note that if you have STOCK SIGNALS IN THE BACK AND DO IT THIS WAY, YOU WILL MELT YOUR REAR SIGNALS. If you have Kury Bullets back there, you're just fine except they will be very bright. Might wanna use 20 watt bulbs from the hardware store track lighting section.


Thanks go out to Tim Skelton who provided the first instructions on mounting a license plate this way. Also to be credited are DragBars Christian for letting me get a good close look at Kury Silver Bullets in Daytona and the San Diego crew for a good look at clean rear ends.
Questions? Contact Chet at
Chetspages@rattlebars.com